I bought them off the new york website that is no longer up. yep, those pills were the best thing ever. There was a yahoo forum, but the moderator stopped it because of narcs. I don't know where to find it other than ebay. I'm not about to pay 460 either. I don't recommened them either because they all seem to be the fakes. You can tell by the packaging. I saved the packaging for comparison use in case i ever came across some again.
I'm taking lipodrene with ephedra now. This definately works, but you'll feel jittery and somewhat moody. everyone I know who takes it has had great results. Some alternate this with phentermine when they have reached a plateau.
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