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Old 03-31-2006, 12:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Not sure what this means for phentermine shoppers, but it looks major. . . . check it out....... :???:
Alpharma U.S. Human Pharmaceuticals and
Purepac Pharmaceuticals have now
become Actavis U.S.!

Actavis is a fast growing company, headquartered in Iceland with modern development and manufacturing facilities in Europe, the U.S. and Asia and an extensive sales and marketing network in five continents. In December 2005 the human generics business of Alpharma became part of the Actavis Group, creating one of the five leading generic pharmaceutical companies in the world, with 10,000 employees in over 30 countries. The Group offers one of the broadest portfolios in the generics sector and a wide variety of products in development and registration, enabling it to provide its customers with a wide range of affordable high quality pharmaceuticals.

Actavis has a leading market position in the world’s largest markets for generic pharmaceutical products.

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Old 03-31-2006, 01:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes, thanks for posting this SixString. I can only see it doing good
as there are so many generic manufacturers, and some are better than
others. Purepac was one of the better ones, and now they have a bigger
share of the phentermine market.

I'm kindof interested to see what the new pills will look like after
they retool for the new branding.

Have you ever had the chance to use Purepac phentermine 37.5?
If so, how would you rate it compared to other brands?

I haven't seen Purepac shipped by fulfillment pharmacies for the
online pharmacies in about six months. Maybe this merger will
help to lower their prices to the phentermine wholesalers,
which will in turn lower the prices for pharmacies and allow
more of them to buy it and ship it.

You know how a lot of people have been searching for Eon
phentermine for a while? It's because the pharmacies can't
afford to buy it. See, a small percentage of customers
expect to pay a certain price 30mg phentermine no matter
what it seems. The price (to the pharmacies) for Eon labs
phentermine 30mg blue/clear is over TRIPLE the price of
other brands such as Amide. Why? I'm not sure. Amide even
ran a test on a few lots of their 30mg blue clear to see if
it had the same composition as Eon. Everything is exactly
the same as Eon, so Eon's prices must be marked up.

However, you also probably have heard that some people
don't like the 30mg blue clear by Amide (a-173). Some say
it doesn't feel like it works as well. I think one member on
this forum, KimberPC (?) had some Eon caps and she ran
out and started taking the Amide immediately and thought
they didn't work as well.

I'd like to hear your thoughts on these things.

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Old 03-31-2006, 04:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, In my opinion lots of people prefer the tabs because they think they are more effective. (and they probably are) for two reasons. First off, the caps release the medication at a much slower rate, and have a lower doseage of the meds.

There is a commercial on TV about aftershave where the old guy tells his grandson...."IF YOU FEEL IT BURNING, YOU KNOW ITS WORKING".....or the dandruff shampoo commercial....it tingles so you know its working.

The tabs dissolve almost instanlty and "bum-rush" if you will, the user. That, along with appetite supression and you experience the almost euphoric sensation of a jolt of energy with no nasty jitters or bellyach like you would get by taking ephedra. Its a very clean and unique experience, but very subtle....anyways it doesnt take long before the user will associate that with not being hungry (as the appetite spression is underway while all this is going on). If they switch over to a gelcap, they lower the dose a bit, and then since it breaks down slower, there isnt the sensation you get with the tabs because they arent absorbed into your system as quickly. I think there is a bit of placebo effect there. They dont "feel" anything so they dont feel that its working....or at least not as effectively. As studies show time and time again, the placebo effect is just as powerful as some drugs on the market now. Phentermine wont MAKE you not eat, but it makes it easier to resist temptation and diminishes the urge to eat but wont weld your mouth shut. One of the side effects.....and a good one, is that it makes you feel very alert, but in control, and gives you lots of energy. When you've got lots of energy to go along with no appetite, loosing weight is a cinch. If you can feel psycially that this drug is in your system and doing its job, you will experience better results. Going from that to a gelcap that you cant tell is working, you will be expecting the energy, but due to the caps and the lower doseage, the energy they give you wont compare to that of a tab.

I dont know about you, but when I take my tabs, they give me enough energy to be too busy to think about food. I also know if I eat anything more than a light sandwich while on the tabs, the energy will go away and make you feel like crap. With the gels, you dont have that...you will think the meds are too weak are not working.....the energy level wont be there.....even tho the appetite supressent may be exactly the same you will assume its either too weak, or not working at all......then you will start to doubt the medication. So when you do feel like you could eat something, you will think, see, this isnt working I knew it, and head to the fridge. With unhealthy lifestyles, or eating disorders....I'd think If your not out doing and staying busy, you will sit around and think about eating. Kinda like someone who quits smoking needs to stay busy until the cravings subside. Here we are talking about eating, but I think the same psycology applies to any type of addiction, whether food abuse or drug abuse. Now, having said ALL that, I need to say here this is merely what I beleive is going on based on my understaning and experience with all of all the above. Im no doctor by any stretch of the imagination, but having been prescribed these meds on and off for so long, I've learned quite a bit. I think its also worth noting here, that I was on these and Paxil at the same time, and it made the anphetamine like side-effects MUCH stronger to me. I just wanted to add that so much of it depends on the individuals body, metabolism, medication tolerance, what other drugs they are taking (prescribed or not) . . . . [use Afrin nasal spray while on Phentermine and you will see what Im talking about] . . . . experiences, and enviroment that I'd have to say each person would have to experiment with doseages and delivery (tabs/gels) to find whats most effective for them.

For me, it took time and tweaking but I learned how to get the most out of them and ended up going from 300 lbs all the way to 192 lbs at my lowest. After coming off them, you will gain SOME weight back as your body adjusts, but if you train yourself to eat right while your on them, you WILL HAVE TO EXERT A LITTLE EFFORT to make sure you keep that regimine you learned while on the meds or you will gain more weight than before, if you go back to your old habits. Trust me, done that once, and had to start over a second time, (if you wanna stay thin, avoid smoking weed or you will be twice as big in no time....learned that the hard way)...after i figured out all that, then stayed slim for 2 years with no phentermine. Now I only need it on very rare occasions....(ie, the holidays or whenever i get a new propane tank on my gas grill ;-))......now, as far as the other... I havent gotten any purepac myself, but have heard good things about them. I got the Adipex tabs once and they didnt do anything.....nothing. I was very surprised that the real mcoy brand name didnt work out for me, the generics A-159 are the most effective I've had so far. I also wonder if there is a "freshness" type shelf life with these things, because I've noticed that even the effectiveness of the a-159's will vary from pharmacy to pharmacy...that can only make me wonder about shelf ife, humidity during storage.....I'm just at a loss on that topic.........There is a girl I work with who was very obese and my weight loss inspired her to go to her DR and get on them. They gave her 30mg yellow gelcaps and they didnt work for her. She went to the tabs, and the fat melted off. My wife.....nothing phases her that I've seen. Nothing. That just illustrates how different people react to this stuff. My doctor informed me that only her male paitents had uniform success with phen, and that the females were hit and miss....even the biggest weight loosers that were females didnt come close to the men. There's something to that, but I dont know what. Wow, you messed up asking my thoughts, I gave you the short version and ended up with a book here. Sorry.

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Old 03-31-2006, 04:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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OH YES! I gotta read this later tonight when I get back home.
AWESOME post. Books are great.

I really appreciate your book.

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Old 03-31-2006, 04:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I forgot to note that I do hope this is a positive sign that quality phentermine supplies will increase to meet the current demand. I've also discovered some info on the DEA website that may explain the current phentermine shortage, as well as why MasterCards are no longer used on Online Pharmacy websites, and why FedEx, UPS, and Visa may be soon to follow. It all makes the future of online dr. consulations and prescriptions shaky at best. But we all know that when your talking about reform and internet legislation, you may as well be talking about a manned mission to pluto.....ie. such things take a few lifetimes to acheive, and lets hope this is one of them. Even the prices out there now on the Online pharms are still cheaper than going to my local doctor, paying the office fee, then going to a "brick and mortar" pharmacy and then only getting a 30 day supply....then they want you to come back and pay another 30 bucks, and charge you 90 bucks for 30, not to mention burning up a day getting all that done. Anyways, before I end up writing the new testament I'll go get some sleep while you read the old one.
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Old 07-16-2006, 05:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hello, Ian. Just a quick submit about the PurePac Phentermine. I just happened across this post, although I know it's been here for a while. Myself and my friends also liked the PurePac phen that we got at a local pharmacy here in Baltimore when prescribed by a doctor we saw at a clinic. And the price was good as well. About a dollar a pill. We did have to show our ID though. No problem. But from everyone I spoke to, they preferred the PurePac, but like you said, it is more rare to receive it than another manufacturer's pills. Don't know why. This pharmacy is a high-volume one here in Maryland. Thanks for the info you give us. We appreciate it. ttkitty.

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