[sensualblonde]

Originally Posted by vanillacookies

Hi!
I need to start a good program that will make me feel physically well. I've put on so much weight over the past years and it really makes you drag. Ok, I've been reading and want to try Phentermine, but I went into one of your sights, RX DIET PILL and the blue pill is, Fastin and the yellow pill is Ionamin. Isn't Fastin dangerous? It seems to me I read years ago that it was. What is the difference between the Fastin and Ionamin? I wish to order, but don't know which one. I want to start on the 30 mg not the 37 mg. Also, is this a safe place to order the meds? Thank you for all your help and I wish to be among many of you to shake off this excess baggage.
God Bless,
vanillacookies

Ionamin Capsules deliver Phentermine via a special delivery system called resin matrix. No other phentermine product has this resin matrix and no available generic drugs can be substituted for Ionamin® Capsules.
Phentermine which was manufactured by Smith Kline beecham. It is no longer being manufactured

[thewomanwithin67]

U.S. FDA CDER Home Page

If you have any questions about any drug, you can go to the FDA's site link and search for it or look them up in the drug database.

Each drug has info about their initial applications, what they're going to be used for, descriptions, strengths, if the drug has had any problems, label changes and a ton of other useful information.

This is from the FDA: (Generic Drugs: Questions and Answers)
7. If brand-name drugs and generic drugs have the same active ingredients, why do they look different?
In the United States, trademark laws do not allow a generic drug to look exactly like the brand-name drug. However, a generic drug must duplicate the active ingredient. Colors, flavors, and certain other inactive ingredients may be different.

FDA's Office of Generic Drugs (Office of Generic Drugs Home Page)

Think it's easy becoming a generic drug in America? Think again

It should not be assumed that all drug products marketed only with an established name are generic drugs: http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/MedErrors/no_tradename.pdf

This is a sample of how Generic "inactive ingredients" are forumlated: http://www.fda.gov/cder/ogd/QbR/OGD_..._IR_Tablet.pdf
You have to have Adobe Acrobat reader to pull it up.

I was reading and found some interesting things

Electronic Orange Book Home Page

that can be added to pills, in some cases they can add 45.048% eeek! sugar or starch granules into a capsule and 254.49MG into tablets.

Isn't that what we're trying to avoid by watching what we eat?

In here also shows the different studies of Brand vs Generic forms and HOW they dissolve and how much is absorbed into the body.

Form II degrades much more quickly

than Form I, resulting in twice as much impurity RC2 as Form I

Just so you know:
What Is Bioequivalence?

Generics are not required to replicate the extensive clinical trials that have already been used in the development of the original, brand-name drug. These tests usually involve a few hundred to a few thousand patients. Since the safety and efficacy of the brand-name product has already been well established in clinical testing and frequently many years of patient use, it is scientifically unnecessary, and would be unethical, to require that such extensive testing be repeated in human subjects for each generic drug that a firm wishes to market.

Instead, generic applicants must scientifically demonstrate that their product is bioequivalent i.e., performs in the same manner to the pioneer drug.

One way scientists demonstrate bioequivalence is to measure the time it takes the generic drug to reach the bloodstream and its concentration in the bloodstream in 24 to 36 healthy, normal volunteers. This gives them the rate and extent of absorption-or bioavailability-of the generic drug, which they then compare to that of the pioneer drug.

The generic version must deliver the same amount of active ingredients into a patient's bloodstream in the same amount of time as the pioneer drug.

Using bioequivalence as the basis for approving generic copies of drug products was established by the Drug Price Competition and Patent Term Restoration Act of 1984, also known as the Hatch-Waxman Act. Brand-name drugs are subject to the same bioequivalency tests as generics when their manufacturers reformulate them.

An FDA Slideshow that's pretty cool: What You Want to Know About Generic Drugs

My main question/concern is what about the "inactive" ingredients. I still can't find testing or research on the specifics of HOW the inactive ingredients affect us as the consumer or if there is regulation as to what all can be put in generic formulations....

[2summers]

Very interesting - thanks for all the information. I'm sure there are some drugs more sensitive and reactive to the modifications in generics, than others. I think with some drugs, the "pioneers" or prototypes are much more effective and with fewer adverse side effects than the generics . With other drugs and other medical conditions, it probably doesn't

make any difference.

I'm of no help about the inactive ingredients.

[mcleary04]

Susan! What is the difference between Phentermine HCL and HCI??? Which one is the long-lasting?

[newmomagain30]

Hi
I got Phen from a nutritionist 2 yrs ago. Now that I just had a baby, I ordered Phen from a website people said to go on.
They sent me the MP 273 ones. What is the difference between that one and the A 159 ones?? I seem to crave food at the end of the night.. where as I didn't with the a 159 ones.

Thanks

[susanpesek]

Click on this file and try to identify what you are taking.

[kozmowave]

susan, you have not used phentermin at all? i want to lose 30 lbs in a matter of 4 months. im not sure if i will have success with this pill. i dont want to spend money if it will not work... i do exercise and eat healthy. please let me know..

[nomorefat1013]

Hello all. My name is Jessica and I'm new to this site. Not really sure how I found it, but it really caught my attention. I have been taking phentermine for almost 3 months now. ( doctor perscribed) I have lost about 27lbs. so far. Since taking it I have more energy and I feel great. I've also changed some of the ways I eat. I'm trying to cut fat ang eating more fruits and veggies. I'm afraid when I stop taking this I will put back on all the weight. So my question is - Should I continue my weight-loss plan by adding phentramin to my diet? And which one is better phentramin-d or the other?