I still have questions

**zealousredhead** · 04-02-2007, 04:21 AM

I am new to this particular site. I've been lurking for a bit, but never posted. I took phen a couple years ago and it helped me shed my extra weight. I've gained some weight back since then. Now I am taking phen. again in hopes of losing the extra weight....again. This time I purchased two different kinds. The yellow 30mg and 37.5 white oval w/ blue specs. But neither seem to be as good as the first time. This brings me to my questions.....

I read about taking some things along with phen. to help it work better. 5htp? What is this supposed to do?

CLA..... Is this supposed to help with fat storage? Have you taken it and noticed a difference?

Can you take either or both of these together with phen?

I keep hearing about drinking alot of water. What does this do? Does it help the phen or is this just to keep you feeling full?

What about not drinking pop. I read about how you aren't supposed to drink caffeine. Why is that?

I sometimes feel completely exhausted. And then I crave carbs/sugar to give me energy. Does anyone else have this problem? And what do you do on those days?

Thank you....

**susanpesek** · 04-02-2007, 03:23 PM

Hi, Red. I don't know much about CLA, but I could recommend 5-HTP which are amino acids that help boost seratonin levels as an addition to your meds. Stay with a moderate dose, 50-300 mg a day. If you try too much at one time you can't easily tell which is helping.

For SURE only take one of the phentermines at a time!

Water is the best drink because it hydrates tissues best and ice water even helps speed metabolism because the body must warm it! It helps to add a dash of lemon as the citrus also helps speed good body actions along.
Ian has an excellent Phentermine Tolerance Report that might help.

Though it is widely reported that coffee and caffeine drinks speed phentermine from your system by flushing it through, I have found no medical evidence of such. If you find any information on a medical site please let me know. There are SO MANY things I don't know!

**zealousredhead** · 04-02-2007, 04:23 PM

I do only take one of the phentermines at a time. I orginally bought the yellows because that's what I took last time. They don't seem to work all day long though. I read about people taking the 37.5 pills and occasionally taking a half of one in the afternoon to help with the evenings. I haven't tried that yet. I'm too chicken. LOL

I am on an anti-depressant which I take at night before bed. Would the 5-HTP help with depression?

And the water...... Are drinking decaf beverages are okay too? I do drink water while I'm working. But I also drink crystal light and decaf. tea throughout the day. The caffeine speeding the phen through your system has me wondering if drinking too much fluids is speeding the phen through my system. I do pee alot. TMI??

**squeekie** · 04-02-2007, 08:00 PM

If you're already taking an anti-depressant(which one?) I would check with your doctor about taking the 5htp. If you're taking Prozac tell your doctor that you're taking phentermine because they have been known to be prescribed together (I took them together for a period of time and it made me feel pretty good) Maybe you could get him to write you a prescription for the phentermine because they may work better than the ones you got on line.

**zealousredhead** · 04-02-2007, 08:07 PM

I take Lexapro. But no, the dr. won't give me a script for phen. He says I'm not overweight enough. He would rather I just change my eating habits and exercise to lose weight w/o meds. It's frustrating.

rainbow_tears · 04-03-2007, 12:58 AM

BE CAREFUL TAKING 5HTP, PHEN + ANTI DEPRESSANTS as Seretonin syndromme is very dangerous anda real threat.

Please check www. drugs.com for interactions as so much seratonin is and can be very DANGEROUS

**jrjszats** · 04-03-2007, 02:23 AM

I, too, got very frusterated when everyone said "Drink lots of water" when losing weight. I had a hard time finding out the answer. I always just read/heard "Your body needs lots of water, it's 70% water, etc." nothing that would tell me any REAL information about why. Anyway, I FINALLY found out the scoop....If you don't drink enough water, your kidneys will not functions at peak performance. If that happens, your liver will have to kick in to help. Your liver main job is controlling your metabolism. If your metabolism slows down...well, you can either keep your current weight or even gain more...you would definitely struggle to lose.

So that's the story...in a nut shell.

Blessings,
Rene

**squeekie** · 04-03-2007, 07:30 PM

zeal-You're right. It's so frustrating how rigid these doctors are when it comes to prescribing anything for weight loss. Also, you should check the site Lea recommended before you spend any money on the 5htp. By the way, is Lexapro similar to Wellbutrin? I knew someone who took it and one of the side effects/benefits was that they lost weight while taking it.