So disappointed, need help with 5htp amount

31spivey · 06-25-2007, 04:12 AM

ok, I tried the 5htp and b-12 tabs with my phen this morning. I noticed nothing, i'm still tired and grouchy. I tried another one about 5 still nothing. I bought them from gnc they are 100mg. How many do I need to take to help. Also I think I figured out why I wasn't tired and grouchy the first 2 weeks, it must have been the b-12 complex shot he gave me. Well if I can't get the 5htp to work I am stopping until my next appointment in the middle of july. I am so disappointed! This never happened when I took the A159 it is so strange. To me it is proof that just because it 37.5mg of phen that doesn't mean it is the same.

**dag** · 06-25-2007, 02:04 PM

I don't know if you have tried this, but if not maybe it will help.

I take 50mg of 5htp with a small breakfast such as a bagel with country crock light spread and a glass of juice. Just something healthy that is 200 to 300 calories. Then an hour later I take phentermine.
If you do not have any nausea on the 100 mg of 5htp, I would continue taking that.
When I take phentermine with food, it doesn't seem to work as well. Also, do not take it with caffeine, because it doesn't work as well either.

You can also take another dose of 5htp half way through the day if you feel you need to. I don't, but I have read about other people who do take a later dose.

Hope this helps.

**kimberpc** · 06-25-2007, 02:31 PM

I'm going to get some of the 5-HTP today so thanks for the dosing info Dag... I saw there were 50mg and 100mg and I was wondering which one I should get. I think I'll get the 50mg incase the 100mg are too strong for me.

**2summers** · 06-25-2007, 02:44 PM

I don't know how overweight you are, but your family dr. would probably prescribe an anti-depressant if you explain that you're depressed because of the weight. I've taken lexapro and it's great. I also began taking the 5htp and I think it's helpful or maybe I'm just feeling better because I'm on day 5 of the phen. Grouchiness is not good. There has to be quality of life. I did have some aggitation and funky feelings the first coule of days on Phen 37.5 and then I started taking just a half pill - no more side effects. Good Luck! I mentioned the Lexapro because if you're going to be on the phen for a long period of time and the grouchiness doesn't go away, then it might be a good supplement while on the diet.

**skinnyminny5** · 06-25-2007, 04:55 PM

This is a tricky situation...I was on prozac for mild anxiety...when I started taking phen..my prozac no longer worked...I had 2 choices to make..get on the phen and deal witth the anxiety OR not take the phen and not lose. Some people may think I am wrong, but I decided to take my chance on dealing with my anxiety (I am not depressed..but some issues in my life awhile back effected my mental mood) and get on phen..my doc suggested that I try 5HPT before getting on another anti-depressant..I love it..it has helped me almost as good as the prozac...I take 4 pills a day at 50 mg each (I have taken 6 thou before)...2 in the morning and two in the late afternoon/early evening. Maybe try a bigger dosage of 5hpt then increase if you need more..if u think it might be more serious (and just not a side effect from the phen...try your doc) hope this helps some...

31spivey · 06-26-2007, 03:49 PM

Yesterday I took my phen & 2 b-12 1,000mg around 9am, I waited about an hour ate a banana an took 200mg of 5htp & my multi vitamin. I did have more energy and my appetite was somewhat surpressed,(but not like normal where I have no appetite). I am going to keep doing this until I can see my doctor again and he can just write me a script and I can go to walgreens and buy the amide 37.5 A159 brand. I called around to all the local pharmacies to see who carried that brand. I actually ended up talking to one of the pharmasists at walgreens and he said he has heard other customers say the same thing that I have. He said they all have the same amount of active ingredients but, they all have different fillers. Which can affect different people different ways. I haven't lost any weight in the last week and I am hoping all these supplements will help I am suck at 133. Thanks for everyones advice. Ya'll are all so helpful!

**jrjszats** · 06-26-2007, 04:18 PM

Can I ask what 5htp is? I have seen others post about it but have never heard about it...

Blessings,
Rene

**dag** · 06-26-2007, 04:32 PM

Here's some infor that might be helpful about taking an antidepressant with phen. First, DO NOT take an MAO -which is one type of antidepressant. That can be very dangerous. You can take an SSRI such as Celexa (I take this), lexapro, prozac etc. The facts its that when you take one of these antidepressants with phentermine, your antidepressant will no longer work as an antidepressant. The main reason people take the two together is that the antidepressant prolongs the phentermine effects. If you are depressed or having other metnal issues you have a choice, as skinnyminny5 stated. You either need to take the antidepressant and allow it to do its job and not take the phentermine or deal with the mental issues and take phentermine. I probably sound like a broken record to some who have read my other posts, but maybe someone reading this has not read before. The antidepressant taken with phen is a weightloss therapy known as phenpro. CHeck out the website called phenpro.com. You can read about how it works in detail as well as how 5htp works.

5htp is a natural mood enhancer and it will very likely help your mood as well as control your hunger better. I could never take 200 mg though. I was very nauseated when I took 100mg. The phenpro website is hosted by a doctor who has created phenpro and he also has a lot of info about 5htp as well. He recommends a daily dose of 100mg of 5htp and this can be split by taking 50 mg in the morning and 50mg about 3 hours before bedtime. I personally only need the 50mg in the morning. You might need 3 days before you begin to feel the 5htp kicking in. Oh and some people have strange dreams when taking 5htp.