[2summers]

I just read Ian's report on Phentermine tolerance and found it very informative. However, over the past month, I don't recall ever reading where anyone is doing the amino acid therapy or the alternative of lemon water. The explanation about not using caffeine was very helpful. So, is anyone trying some of these tricks with the phentermine? Also, what is 5h? I didn't quite get that part. Thanks!

[susanpesek]

Hello to my 'Bama sis~ I am not sure about the caffeine; as Rebel said once, if caffeine flushed things from your system, medicines would be labeled not to take with caffeine, but most are just the opposite! Somebody please set me in my place if I am wrong!!

5-HTP is an amino acid over the counter 'vitamin'. It is sometimes prescribed over the counter for folks that have very mild depression symptoms. It enhances seratonin which is the 'satisfaction' leveler in the brain!

[debbiew]

I found this about the lemon water. Sounds like something worth trying. I think I might!

Studies from the Wayne Diet Clinic Nutrition Guide show that lemon water can help prevent or slow tolerance to Phentermine. The formula for lemon water contains:

2-3 ounces of lemon juice

1 quart of water

The Wayne Diet Clinic has also found that avoiding drinking sodas and other caffeinated beverages can help slow or prevent Phentermine tolerance. This is because caffeine speeds up metabolism, which has a diuretic effect and in turn causes you to excrete Phentermine from your body much more quickly through urine.

[2summers]

Very helpful! I have beguntaking the 5htp but I didn't know it was an amino acid. I think I might try the lemon water because it sounds like it would taste good,also. Susan, I know you love your coffee! If I recall, you aren't taking Phentermine, but the Wayne Diet Clinic report does state that any kind of caffeine - coffee, soda, tea - will quickly metabolize the Phentermine, requiring that you take more to get the desired effect and eventually developing a tolerance.

[findingme4me]

This thread was very helpful and i was wondering about the same things i was just hoping that i would find the answer with out asking....hmm lazy i know

[susanpesek]

A Big THANK YOU to 2summers and Debbie! Have ya'll ever read that substantiated on a medical site? WebMD, Medscape, etc? Please post any article here if you would be so kind.

I am on my way to read at Wayne's. ..I am not yet familiar with it.

OH, YES, GIRL. I LOVE MY COFFEE!!!

[2summers]

I learned about some of these tolerance issues from Ian's report on this site, including several references to the Wayne Diet Clinic Report. Go to: Diet Pill Forum, Phentermine, 5th Sticky "Phentermine - What is it?", 2nd heading "How do you Start?", click on step 3 "Learn about side effects". But now I can't access it!!! I just read it this morning. What do the lock and key icons mean?

[genawena]

wow! this is a very informative post...

Not at all disputing it here...but its a little puzzling...my doc prescribed phen to be taken in the morning, along with my torsemide (water pill... because I tend to retain fluid in my tissues)

and coffee seems to really "wake up" my phen, making it more effective for me during the day

In the 70's, I was prescribed diet meds and Lasix, and I was given a B6 shot at each appointment...boy did I lose it fast under that program.

Now I'm not sure what to do. Must take the torsemide daily, and for 4 or 5 hours I am running to the bathroom every 5 minutes. (I told my doc all that running is probably the cause of weight loss heh)

I could take the torsemide first, but that would delay my taking phen till late in the day...I'm already having probs with sleep wah

I could take the torsemide last, but I'd be getting up all night to run to the bathroom.

And what do I do about coffee? Its my wake up in the morning!