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Old 10-02-2008, 06:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Does anybody have positive and/or negative experience taking 5-HTP with Phen? Does it really help with better mood and appetite loss? thanks!

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Old 10-02-2008, 06:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I actually tried 5-Htp a while back before I went on phen...My first thought... oh my god I godda get my mom some of this hahaha. When I first started phen for the 1st week I was not myself thinking a bunch of bitchy thoughts and being unhappy and such. I kinda took a concoction of supplements to snap me out of it.. Basically with research and help of others I found out that 5-HTP, Fish Oil, Folic Acid, and a hand full of sunflower seeds, and exercise are all mood enhancers. I can definitely say that I am content right now. Also, I found out a the key to happiness IS in the stomach. Like 2/3rds of our serotonin is made in our tummy's. So next time I'm at the store I'm gonna buy some sunflower seeds and keep them with me at all times so I can maybe eat a few every hour, yes, even if I'm not hungry. Not to many calories and it will keep my body out of starvation mode and keep me happy

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Old 10-04-2008, 02:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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5-HTP (5-Hydroxytryptophan)
Be aware that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not strictly regulate herbs and dietary supplements. There is no guarantee of strength, purity or safety of products containing or claiming to contain 5-HTP. Decisions to use herbs or supplements should be carefully considered. Individuals using prescription drugs should discuss taking herbs or supplements with a pharmacist or health care professional before starting.


Serotonin is the brain chemical associated with sleep, mood, locomotion, feeding and anxiety. While other cells outside the brain — such as blood platelets and some intestinal lining cells — make and/or use serotonin, all serotonin used by brain cells must be made within the neurons themselves. When serotonin is not properly constructed within the brain, the result can be irritability, aggression, impatience, anxiety and depression.
  • The amino acid tryptophan is the precursor for the neurotransmitter serotonin.
  • Serotonergic neurons express the enzyme tryptophan hydroxylase. This enzyme catalyzes the conversion of tryptophan to 5-HTP.
  • Next, the amino acid decarboxylase converts 5-HTP into 5-hydroxytryptamine (5-HT), more commonly known as serotonin.
  • Metabolites of 5-HTP include 5-HT and 5-hydroxyindoleacetic acid (5-HIAA).
Evidence
Scientists have studied 5-HTP for the following health problems:
Cerebellar ataxia (difficulty standing and walking)
Cerebellar ataxia results from the failure of part of the brain to regulate body posture and limb movements. 5-HTP has been observed to have benefits in some people who have difficulty standing or walking because of cerebellar ataxia. Some research shows that 5-HTP may allow individuals with unsteady movements to stand alone without assistance, walk without aid or improve coordination. Other research shows no benefit. Further research is needed before a conclusion can be drawn.
Headache
There is evidence from several studies in both children and adults that 5-HTP may be effective in reducing the severity and frequency of headaches, including tension headaches and migraines. 5-HTP may be most effective for treating headaches in people with a history of depression or those who experienced severe headaches before the age of 20 years. Fewer pain-relieving medications may be needed when taken with 5-HTP; however, many of the available studies show that more proven pharmaceutical drugs may work better than 5-HTP for headaches. Further research is needed.
Appetite suppressant, weight loss, obesity
5-HTP inhibits eating behavior in animals by altering serotonin in the brain. Studies in humans also suggest that 5-HTP may reduce eating behaviors, lessen caloric intake and promote weight loss in obese individuals. Large, well-designed studies comparing 5-HTP with prescription appetite-suppressant drugs are needed to make a recommendation.
Depression
The results of numerous studies in humans suggest that 5-HTP may aid in the treatment of depression. However, it is not known whether 5-HTP is as effective as commonly prescribed antidepressant drugs.
Fibromyalgia
There is a small amount of research evaluating the use of 5-HTP for fibromyalgia, and early evidence suggests that 5-HTP may reduce the number of tender points, anxiety and intensity of pain and may improve sleep, fatigue and morning stiffness. Additional studies with larger numbers of people are needed to determine what dose may be safe and effective.
Anxiety
Although 5-HTP has been proposed as a possible treatment for anxiety disorders, there are very few studies in humans including a small amount of patients. More research is needed to determine whether 5-HTP is an effective treatment for certain types of anxiety disorders and what dose may be safe and effective.
Psychiatric disorders
It has been suggested that 5-HTP may reduce psychotic symptoms and mania or aid in panic disorder, but studies in people with schizophrenia have shown different results. Further well-designed research is needed.
Myoclonic syndromes (sudden, dramatic muscle spasms)
Although 5-HTP has been studied as a treatment for various myoclonic syndromes and epilepsy, available research does not support the use of 5-HTP for these conditions.
Lesch-Nyhan syndrome
Small studies of 5-HTP in Lesch-Nyhand syndrome show conflicting results.
Down syndrome
Preliminary study of 5-HTP in children with Down syndrome yields insignificant results. Further research is necessary.
Alcohol withdrawal symptoms
Early study suggests that 5-HTP may lessen alcohol withdrawal symptoms. Further research is needed to confirm these results.

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Old 10-12-2008, 09:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I thought I would also try 5-HTP since I had read so many positive reviews about it. I took one in the a.m. planning to eat breakfast within 15 minutes. I had not have my phen for the day yet. Within 15 minutes I had a tingling feeling down my arms and legs, broke out in a huge sweat (water literally dripping from my body) and starting vomiting. This continued for at least an hour. I will never try this again. I don't know if this was a rare occurence for the supplement but it really scared me. Maybe it was reacting to the phen that was in my system from the previous day. Anyway, anyone wanting to try this should be careful.

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Old 10-14-2008, 09:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That has happened to me in the past when I took like 10 diff supplements before I ate. But I was kinda laughing and vomiting at the same time cause I was like damn this is one way of weightloss. Ever since I make sure to have pills with or after I eat.

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Old 10-16-2008, 07:23 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi I purchase Phentramin D one week ago.I'm maybe a little bit less tired but I still have appetite and one week pass and i don't even lost one pond nothing.I'm cutting on food drink a lots of water but i still weight as I stared.And when i have a one cup of very week coffee i getting this chest pain for couple hours.Is this normal?I tried to contact customer service and no one picking up the phone.Please let me now what to do.Do I suppose to continue or quick and ask for re found ?But how I can get in touch with anybody from costumer service?Thank You so much

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Old 10-17-2008, 06:18 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi I purchase Phentramin D one week ago.I'm maybe a little bit less tired but I still have appetite and one week pass and i don't even lost one pond nothing.I'm cutting on food drink a lots of water but i still weight as I stared.And when i have a one cup of very week coffee i getting this chest pain for couple hours.Is this normal?I tried to contact customer service and no one picking up the phone.Please let me now what to do.Do I suppose to continue or quick and ask for re found ?But how I can get in touch with anybody from costumer service?Thank You so much
Yikes !!!!! If anything gave me chest pain I would stop taking them period until I saw a Dr. or something. it's never a good idea to mix two stimulants even with Coffee,so whose to know if the coffee and pills made that happen.

Either way I would have stopped until I found out why that was happening. That goes for any kind of weightloss drug it's just not worth it for a few lbs.


I recommend that you call Lazarus Labs (the manufacturer of Phentramin-D) again at 800-572-1066, OR email

customerservice@lazaruslabs.com

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