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Old 03-27-2008, 12:59 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Because of our resident poodle who holds a degree in 'poodle cute' AND in 'bulldog tenacity,' CC (sahmof4) penned the following letter to Lazarus Labs, who answered in red.God bless you, CC!!(edited for brevity with '...')
I am including only the message body:

1.) Does Phentramin or phentramin-D give you headaches ?
No, neither Phentramin-d nor Phentramin typically cause headaches in people in normal good health.
2.) What are the differences between Phentramin and phentramin-D ?Phentramin is an herbal product for weight control; Phentramin-d is more of a pharmacological product for weight control.
3.) How is phentramin-D similiar to phentermine ? Phentermine is a prescription medication used for weight control. It is in the sympathomimetic family of appetite suppressants used for the short term management of obesity. Phentermine is similar chemically to amphetamines.

Phentramin-d is a non-prescription formula used for weight control. We feel that Phentramin-d is the closest non-prescription product to prescription Phentermine on the market today. The primary ingredient in Phentramin-d is a sympathomimetic amine, meaning it mimics norepinephrine, which elevates metabolic rate, increases fat mobilization, and increases energy levels. However, Phentramin-d does not have the same chemical similarity to amphetamines, nor does it have the same acute affect on the central nervous system, as .. Phentermine,... consider it ‘safer’ than ... very effective for weight control.

4.) Is Phentramin similiar to phentermine ,also ? The ingredients in Phentramin are considered to be ‘all natural’ or herbal. ..., Phentramin cannot be considered as ‘strong’ as Phentermine in overall effect. Phentramin is the top of the line ....

5.) What are the the side effects of these products ?The main effects are weight loss and increased energy. However, some people may experience side effects such as dry mouth, sleeplessness or irritability. These side effects are usually short term...

6.) Is it safe to get preggo while taking these meds ? .. not recommend either ... Precautions for use include the following:You should not take either Phentramin or Phentramin-d if you are pregnant or breast-feeding... under the age of 18. If you have a history of heart problems or high blood pressure, ... consult with your doctor.... If ... any doubts ... you should contact your physician.

7.) Approximately how long does it take to work; a day or so or a few days ? This can and does vary from individual to individual depending on a number of factors. However, appetite suppression has been experienced the very first day by a number of our customers, though typically it takes approximately three or so days for effects to be more noticeable and a week or so for noticeable weight loss effects. Note: It is generally agreed by bariatric physicians, exercise physiologists and other experts that most humans can only lose 2 to 2 ˝ pounds of fat per week; any amount over and above that figure is fluid loss.
8.) Do you tend to lose water weight with these pills ? Does it act as a diuretic? Phentramin is designed to have a mild diuretic effect and Phentramin-d a very mild diuretic effect. The primary purpose of both products is appetite suppression and increased rate of thermogenesis (fat burning).
9.) Get rid of "water weight" ? Phentramin is designed to have a mild diuretic effect and Phentramin-d a very mild diuretic effect. The primary purpose of both products is appetite suppression and increased rate of thermogenesis (fat burning)

10.) Is phen-d, like a fat blocker and when I eat something fatty, it takes it right out? Causing diarrhea ? (Like Alli) [No, Phentramin-d does not include a so-called ‘fat blocker’ and neither does Phentramin. Both of these products are designed to suppress appetite and increase thermogenesis (fat burning).
11.) Feeling tired and lethargic on these pills ? No…both formulas are designed to enhance energy levels and mood.
12.) Are there any side effects that would affect me in a work environment? Not if you are in normal good health and take the products as recommended.

13.) Should you use these pills if your sesitive to caffeine ? Why ? We would not recommend either Phentramin or Phentramin-d for someone who is overly sensitive to caffeine as both products contain caffeine (Phentramin contains more than Phentramin-d
14.) Should you avoid caffeine while taking these pills ? ; Why ? ]We advise]moderating caffeine intake while taking either Phentramin or Phentramin-d because both of these products contain caffeine or similar stimulants.

15.) Is it safe to take a aspirin with these pills ? Why? Assuming a person has no medical problems and is not under a doctor’s care, taking a recommended dosage of aspirin should be safe in conjunction with Phentramin or Phentramin-d.
16.) Is it safe to take 2 or 3 a day ? Why ? Under normal circumstances it is safe to take 2 capsules per day. However, we would not recommend exceeding this dosage.
17.) ppl who have taken phentermine and developed a tolerance and decide to take phentramin-D. Will that effect the way these pills work for them ? This would depend to some extent on how long a person has been taking prescription Phentermine.In general, most people experience very good results with either Phentramin or Phentramin-d after having been on prescription weight loss drugs. The fact that both products are designed to produce effects similar to the best selling prescription drugs but without the extreme effect and stress on the CNS may be one reason that customers can continue to lose weight on Phentramin and Phentramin-d when they have hit a plateau with prescription products.
18.) Are you suppose to feel energy with these pills ? Phentramin and Phentramin-d are designed to enhance energy levels.

19.) Will these pills keep you up all night ? The formulas have stimulatory action, therefore we do not recommend that they be taken late in the afternoon or in the evening as they might interfere with your sleep patterns.

20.) Do either one of these products work as well as Phentermine? Both products have proven ... for weight control, with Phentramin-d being, in our opinion, as close to the prescription Phentermine as is currently legally available and the original Phentramin is still the gold standard in herbal alternatives to Phentermine........ The prescription drug will have a stronger effect on the central nervous system, but this can.... jittery and nervous. For those people, Phentramin-d should be similarly effective for weight control.
21.)Approximately, How long does the appetite supression last? The appetite suppression effects can vary considerably from individual to individual. Customers report appetite suppression lasting from 3 to 4 hours and some as long as 8 hours.

22.) Is it ok to take Phentramin-D or Phentramin to help the effects of Phentermine ? We do not recommend that you take either product in conjunction with prescription Phentermine
23.) For ppl who can not swallow pills well can they break open the capsules and take them that way? Yes. Some people have found that by pulling the capsule apart and putting the active ingredients in apple sauce, cottage cheese or yogurt works well.

24.)Can I take either one of these pills with antidepressants such as Zolft? We strongly recommend that anyone on anti-depressants should check with their doctor before taking Phentramin-d or any type of non-prescription pharmaceutical or herbal product.
What are the ingredients in Phentramin-d? 1,3-Dimethylpentylamine + 1,3,7 trimethylxanthine
DO I NEED A PRESCRIPTION TO GET PHENTRAMIN-d?Phentramin-d does NOT require a prescription.
HOW DO I TAKE PHENTRAMIN-d?
Phentramin-d is best taken on an empty stomach approximately a half-hour before breakfast and again a half-hour before lunch. Because this product could cause sleeplessness, avoid taking a dose late in the day. Do not take Phentramin-d more often or longer than directed
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PHENTRAMIN-d AND PHENTERMINE?
Phentermine Hydrochloride (HCL) is a prescription medication used for weight control. It is in the sympathomimetic family of appetite suppressants used for the short term management of obesity. Phentermine is similar chemically to amphetamines.
Phentramin-d is a non-prescription formula used for weight control. The primary ingredient in Phentramin-d is a sympathomimetic amine, meaning it mimics norepinephrine, which elevates metabolic rate, increases fat mobilization, and increases energy levels. However, Phentramin-d does not have the exact same chemical similarity to amphetamines, nor does it have the same acute affect on the central nervous system, as prescription Phentermine, therefore we consider it extremely effective for weight control yet ‘safer’ than the prescription version.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PHENTRAMIN-d and OTHER NON-PRESCRIPTION PRODUCTS?Unlike other...., Phenramin-d is NOT an herbal product...designed to mimic the effects of the most popular and effective weight loss prescription drugs Phentermine and Adipex.A truly revolutionary, next generation product, Phentramin-d contains NO HOODIA, NO CHROMIUM, NO EPHEDRA....FORMULA ....
What is the Recommended dosage of Phentramin-d?
Recommended dosage is one capsule with 8 ounces of water in the morning and one capsule with 8 ounces of water at noon or in the early afternoon. ... proper nutrition ... an exercise program. The full effects of the product may take four to six weeks. Do not increase your dose....
What are the main effects of Phentramin-d?The main effects of Phentramin-d are weight loss and increased energy. However... dry mouth, sleeplessness or irritability. ... short term and cease...
What are the Precautions of taking Phentramin-d? Do not take Phentramin-d if you are pregnant or breast-feeding. Phentramin-d should not be taken by anyone under the age of 18. If ... heart problems or high blood pr... your doctor before taking Phentramin. If you have any doubts... contact your physician.
ARE THERE SIDE EFFECTS to Phentramin?
The main effects of Phentramin are weight loss and increased energy... dry mouth, sleeplessness or irritability. These side effects are usually short term...
What are the Precautions of taking Phentramin?Do not take Phentramin if .. pregnant...breast-feeding..under the age of 18. .. heart problems or high blood pressure... Do not share Phentramin with others. If you miss a dose, do not double the next dose. Instead, skip the missed dose and resume your usual dosage schedule. Store at room temperature away from sunlight and moisture. Keep this and all medications out of the reach of children
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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thank you Susan!!! Very helpful and elaborate responses to the FAQ's!!!

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Old 04-21-2008, 12:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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CC really worked hard trying to gather all the information and form her questions in a thorough and non-judgemental way. She represented all of our questions and did a TERRIFIC JOB!

YOU GO, CC!.

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Old 04-23-2008, 07:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i think its what i am going to choose i was going to try alli but i heard they suggest you to wear a diaper because of the side effects.... so im thinking uhh..no no no!
i think not.

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Old 04-23-2008, 07:12 AM   #5 (permalink)
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by the way... isnt that the chick from reno 911?? lol the pic looks just like her

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Old 04-23-2008, 05:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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CC really worked hard trying to gather all the information and form her questions in a thorough and non-judgemental way. She represented all of our questions and did a TERRIFIC JOB!

YOU GO, CC!.
Thanks susan !!!

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Old 06-06-2008, 04:50 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Ladies...and Ian I have been watching this forum for a while and decided to finally join....wondering if I should order the Phentramine D. OR head to a weight loss clinic to get the HCG or B12 shots. Any comments or comparisons? have any of you had the shots?
I used Ephedra 6 yrs ago and it was fantastic...NOW its difficult to find anything that works for me like it. Just looking for something to assist in my commitment in eating healthy and living healthy. Starting tomorrow
So I would like an aid to try....any suggestions? I am open to anything...also what about this FASTIN? and the O pill?

Thanks!!!!

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Old 06-07-2008, 08:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I hate to be the one in the dark and unable to answer questions because I NEED to know, but was afraid to order either. Seemed the Fastin (only an herbal product; not the original) and the 'new one' we have ads for, each required I agree to regular monthly shipments--YIKES-- and charges! None of us has enough moola to risk that, so I haven't tried.

However, though I tried Phentramin, it had no effect on me. My daughter felt help with hunger immediately.

I tried Phentramin-D and felt real hunger suppression, so would go that route again if needed.

Have you tried any thermogenics or gotten any guidance from GNC or that type store?

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