Winnie's Journey

rainbow_tears · 10-26-2006, 10:21 AM

I am not sure which Anti D's work iwth phen as I know you have to be really careful with them as I have heard that the combinations of some Anti D's and phen can induce mania and become the start of Bipolar disorder. I would urge you to send Ian a pm as he knows a lot more about phen and interactions than me.

I am pleased though to hear that phen is working for you, that is great.

Thinking of you.
x

**susanpesek** · 10-28-2006, 09:18 PM

Hi, Hon. Seratonin re-uptake inhibitors are the usual anti-depressants. Prozac is an example. It can work to enhance the phentermine but also comes with a warning flag~it is possible to get Seratonin Syndrome, so you must only try that with your doctor's express permission. Don't want to tak any chances, Babe!
"Serotonin is a neurotransmitter used at the ends of nerves. It is manufactured in your body using the amino acid tryptophan. At the meeting of one nerve with another there is a space. Release of serotonin (or other drugs-depending on the type of nerve) causes the other nerve to fire and continue the message along the "cable". Its other name is 5- hydroxytryptamine and is also found in platelets. Release of serotonin by injured platelets is thought to cause blood vessels to contract.
We really do not know the triggers for hunger or appetite. It seems that serotonin is involved, but where and how are currently unknown. Serotonin release is triggered by a carbohydrate load (sugar, etc.) and there are many who feel that eating Carbohydrates under stress is aimed at this serotonin release. Other potent drug stimulators are anti-depressants like Elavil (amitriptyline).
There are several syndromes that could be referred to as Serotonin Syndrome. First is overproduction by carcinoid cells of serotonin. This causes diarrhea, flushing and tachycardia. Second is serotonin deficiency which is characterized by a low level of serotonin in the blood. Third, a whole bunch of syndromes grouped under this when the physician can't make a diagnosis of the real problem. Carcinoid Syndrome can be localized in any general medicine textbook."

rainbow_tears · 10-28-2006, 10:14 PM

As always Susan has a wonderful knowledge of EVERYTHING, and she is such a sweetie for finding out everything and anything any of us could ever want or need to know.

Winnie, hope your doing ok? Sorry I haven't been in touch the last day or so got my best friend here till tomorrow.

much love
x

winnie · 11-06-2006, 05:54 PM

Hello!
I am still doing really well. I have been very proud of myself because I am beginning to make wise eating decisions. Yesterday, I was in the convenience store and it was fine for me to get a banana while the kids got sandwiches. I did not feel the HUGE temptation to get a hazelnut coffee with vanilla creamer. The smell was lovely but the urge was not there!
After reading Susan's post I didn't even further look into the Anti D's with the Phen. I am OK with losing weight slowly.
Afterall, it took a few years to get this pudgy and I will be patient getting myself back to a healthy weight!
Thank you all for your support!
Winnie

**tatiana40** · 11-06-2006, 08:36 PM

Oh, to be able to resist the smell of something you really love... great job!
Welcome and I hope you will acheive your goal soon. Some of us are slow losers but we still working on it.
XOXOOX

**susanpesek** · 11-09-2006, 01:58 PM

Hi, Honey-Pie! I see you are still working at getting healthy. Way to go, Winnie!!
Slowly losing is good. Our bodies all work a little differently. I am a slow loser. It took me since May 22 to lose 15 pounds. Gees, McGees! Hard to go through...it's a bit like trudjing(is THAT a word?) through the mud, ankle deep, for months. But NOW I am on dry land and it is SO much easier!
YOU CAN DO THIS!!!:p

winnie · 11-12-2006, 05:29 AM

Hello!
Life is good. I am down 2 sizes, but the scale did not move this past week. I can be patient. I know I am eating very well (making good choices) and excerising. I hope this week will show a few pounds off! Again, I keep telling myself....I can be patient.
I have a question for you.....since I have been on the Phen, my deodorant is not working well. I don't go around smelling like a horse, but I do notice I am a little stinky.
Is this from the Phen? Any advice?
This forum has really kept me in focus of my goal. Thank you all for your help! Winnie
SW 210 (9-1-06)
193 (10-1-06)
189.5 (10-14-06)
187 (10-25-06)
184 (11-01-06)
GW 170

**susanpesek** · 11-12-2006, 12:35 PM

Winnie, you really ARE doing a great job. Patience is a huge part of it, Hon; I agree!:p You HAVE to remember to give yourself the same amount of rope you'd give anyone else. That's hard to do sometimes...be kind to yourself!
I noticed I was having a harder time with perspiration and started using Mitchum's for Women. It is an excellent anti-perspirant and also doesn't leave that ugly dark spot on your clothing. I bet you'll like it, too!
You have begun to tone your body and well deserve this applause, Girlie!